Ida (de) TOSNY

Ida de Tosny, Countess of Norfolk was very likely a daughter of Ralph V de Tosny (died 1162) and his wife Margaret (born circa 1125 and living in 1185), a daughter of Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester.[1] Relationship to Henry II Ida de Tosny was a royal ward and mistress of King Henry II, by whom she was mother of one of his illegitimate sons, William Longespée, 3rd Earl of Salisbury, (b c. 1176-March 7, 1226). For many years, until the discovery of a charter of William mentioning "Comitissa Ida, mater mea" (Countess Ida, my mother),[2] it was assumed that Rosamund Clifford, a previous mistress of Henry's, was the mother, but painstaking genealogical detective work [3] has since shown otherwise. Ida was not the first English royal ward to be taken as a royal mistress. Isabel de Beaumont (Elizabeth de Beaumont), daughter of Robert de Beaumont, who fought at the Battle of Hastings with the Conqueror, was the ward of William the Conqueror and the mistress of one of his sons.[4] Marriage Around Christmas 1181, Ida de Tosny was given in marriage to Roger Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk by Henry II, together with the manors of Acle, Halvergate and South Walsham, which had been confiscated from his inheritance after his father's death (Hugh Bigod, 1st Earl of Norfolk).[5] Ida and Roger had a number of children including: Hugh Bigod, 3rd Earl of Norfolk who married in 1206 or 1207, Maud Marshal, a daughter of William Marshal William Bigod Ralph Bigod Roger Bigod Margery Bigod, married William de Hastings Mary Bigod, married Ralph fitz Robert Many historians, including Marc Morris have speculated that the couple had a third daughter, Alice, who married Aubrey de Vere IV, 2nd Earl of Oxford as his second wife. If so, the marriage would have been well within the bounds of consanguinity, for the couple would have been quite closely related, a daughter of the second earl of Norfolk being first cousin once removed to the second earl of Oxford. Ida de Tosney in fiction Ida de Tosny and her husband Roger are the main characters in Elizabeth Chadwick's The Time of Singing (Sphere, 2008), published in the USA as For the King's Favor. They appear as minor characters in other of her books set at the same time, notably To Defy a King, which concerns the marriage of their son Hugh to Maud, a daughter of William Marshal. References Jump up ^ Marc Morris: The Bigod Earls of Norfolk in the Thirteenth Century, Woodbridge, Suffolk, 2005, page 2) Jump up ^ Bradenstoke Cartulary, 1979 Jump up ^ Chadwick, Elizabeth. The Time Of Singing (2008) Jump up ^ Marc Morris [The Bigod Earls of Norfolk in the thirteenth century (2005), p. 2] Jump up ^ Marc Morris [The Bigod Earls of Norfolk in the thirteenth century (2005), p. 2] Public Domain This incorporates text from a publication now in the public domain: Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Ida de Toëny Also Known As: "Ida de Tosny. Ida de Toeni", "mistress of King Henry II - produced William", "Ida de Toëny", "Countess of Norfolk" Birthdate: circa 1156 Birthplace: Norfolk, England Death: March 07, 1226 (66-74) Framlingham, Norfolk, England Immediate Family: Daughter of Ralph de Toeni, V, Lord of Flamstead and Margaret de Beaumont Wife of Roger Le Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk, Surety of the Magna Carta Partner of Henry II "Curtmantle", king of England Mother of William Longespée, 3rd Earl of Salisbury; Margaret (Margery) Bigod; Sir Hugh Bigod, 3rd Earl of Norfolk, Surety of the Magna Carta; William Bigod; Mary Bigod and 7 others Sister of Sir Roger de Toeni IV, Lord of Flamstead, Knight de Conches Occupation: Mistress to Henry II, was mistress to Henry III Plantagenet before marriage, and mother of William "Longsword" Plantagenet, Countess of Norfolk

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